On Fri, Jun 27, 2025 at 08:21:39PM -0400, Nathan Stratton Treadway wrote:
On Sat, Jun 28, 2025 at 12:55:34AM +0100, Alain D D Williams wrote:
luke.leighton@googlemail.com is still subscribed, but prvs=0273a95f73=lkcl@lkcl.net and lkcl@lkcl.net are no longer. I did not unsubscribe them.
Here is a recent delivery record of email to him:
2025-06-28 00:26:57 1uVIT8-00DozW-0A => luke.leighton@googlemail.com R=dnslookup T=remote_smtp H=gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com [2a00:1450:400c:c02::1a] TFO X=TLS1.3:ECDHE_X25519__ECDSA_SECP256R1_SHA256__AES_256_GCM:256 CV=yes C="250 2.0.0 OK 1751066817 ffacd0b85a97d-3a8a071066asi2392540f8f.415 - gsmtp"
I don't know anything more about the situation other that what I see come through on the lists... but in case it is helpful to you I will mention that Luke posted on the libre-soc-dev list yesterday copies "you are unsubscribed from arm-netbook" messages he received at both "lkcl@lkcl.net" and "luke.leighton@gmail.com " -- I assume both of those messages were in response to commands he sent to the list software.
So based on your message above, I think he's requesting that "luke.leighton@googlemail.com" also be unsubscribed (or at least sent to "no mail") as well -- i.e. he is asking to end all his subscriptions (but, for some reason, isn't able to determine what other address remain subscribed) ...
Nathan
Thank you Nathan. I have looked at the other mail list archive at: https://lists.libre-soc.org/pipermail/libre-soc-dev/2025-June/
I think that you are correct; Luke unsubscribed two email addresses but did not unsubscribe the third one - so he continued to receive email but could not figure out why. I will shortly unsub luke.leighton@googlemail.com and that will be the end of it.
It is a shame that Luke just did not ask for this to be done.
Luke persists is claiming that I "seized control" of the mail lists; this is not true as I have always been the admin as the lists run on my machine. He has been reminded of this recently but persists in so saying - something that in other circles would be called "fake news" or more plainly "lies". This is a simple example that is repeated many times.
I think that you all need to learn from this how Luke behaves and how he talks about others whom he has decided are no longer his friends. I have seen him do this to several others and then accuse them of harming him -- an inversion of the truth; this is called Gas Lighting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gas_lighting
I received an email from Luke just now, see below (it is all in capitals). The only communications that I have recently made have been through this mail list. I have been polite and respectful, you can verify that by looking at your mail history. What have I done to deserve the vitriol below ? It is completely unnecessary.
WILLIAMS STOP HAREASSING ME STOP SENDING ME ABUSE CEASE S3NDING ME ABUSE THROUGH YOUR LIST GET MY EMAIL ADDRESSES OFF YOUR ABUSIVR MAILING LIST NOW NOW NOW
YOUR INTRANSIGENC3 IS DANGEROUS TO MY LIFE STOP STOP STOP
Christopher asked me "to feel like I have your side of the story". At the time I declined. I now feel that I do not need to as Luke has illustrated how he acts to people who are acting reasonably. If I had replied in a manner similar to how he has ... something akin to world war three would have broken out :-(
So: be wary at believing everything that Luke says. Yes: he has mental health problems and this seems to cause him to act in aggressive & irrational ways.
Yes: some (eg health) institutions could have acted better towards him; they are large organisations and sometimes get things wrong; I do not believe that anyone has deliberately singled him out and maliciously acted to hurt him.
As I have said: many of us wish Luke the best; however the way that he acts is burning the good will that people have for him, unfortunately.
Let us hope that this is the end of this and that Luke recovers from his health problems.
Regards
Luke has a lot of problems, Alain, and he was very confused. Please cut him some slack. I have said far worse in similar moments to people I love dearly. I'm by no means proud of it, quite the opposite, but it has happened.
If you truly wish him your best, at least give him some grace. "Wish" is a verb, you know.
On Fri, Jun 27, 2025 at 09:45:36PM -0400, Christopher (Skye) Havel wrote:
Luke has a lot of problems, Alain, and he was very confused. Please cut him some slack. I have said far worse in similar moments to people I love dearly. I'm by no means proud of it, quite the opposite, but it has happened.
If you truly wish him your best, at least give him some grace. "Wish" is a verb, you know.
Luke has received a lot of help and support; just not talked about here.
Luke is now completely unsubscribed from this list.
On Fri, Jun 27, 2025, 9:50 PM Alain D D Williams addw@phcomp.co.uk wrote:
Luke is now completely unsubscribed from this list.
...which makes me quite sad.
I wish you and the others had been willing to be more flexible. I only wanted to help. Not just him, but... all of it.
This didn't have to be zero-sum.
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